Comments on: #135 Liar Paradox http://chaospet.com/2009/07/21/135-liar-paradox/ Now updated every day that it is updated Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:03:47 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Philosophy Carnival XCV | Minds and Brains http://chaospet.com/2009/07/21/135-liar-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-18011 Philosophy Carnival XCV | Minds and Brains Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:13:31 +0000 http://chaospet.com/?p=216#comment-18011 [...] channeling the later Wittgenstein, Ryan Lake of chaospet has a humorous solution to dealing with the Liar [...] [...] channeling the later Wittgenstein, Ryan Lake of chaospet has a humorous solution to dealing with the Liar [...]

]]> By: EveryZig http://chaospet.com/2009/07/21/135-liar-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-17541 EveryZig Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:54:56 +0000 http://chaospet.com/?p=216#comment-17541 I don't recall implying that referring to itself made it invalid... My argument for it's being meaningless is that it does not convey any information that it does not contradict. I don’t recall implying that referring to itself made it invalid… My argument for it’s being meaningless is that it does not convey any information that it does not contradict.

]]> By: Emil http://chaospet.com/2009/07/21/135-liar-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-17540 Emil Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:04:23 +0000 http://chaospet.com/?p=216#comment-17540 About Yablo's paradox. This version is better: http://www.mit.edu/~yablo/pwsr.pdf It took me a while to understand the inferences. About Yablo’s paradox. This version is better:
http://www.mit.edu/~yablo/pwsr.pdf

It took me a while to understand the inferences.

]]> By: Emil http://chaospet.com/2009/07/21/135-liar-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-17536 Emil Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:47:23 +0000 http://chaospet.com/?p=216#comment-17536 Ugh. Apparently I didn't copy that properly. Here it is: http://deleet.dk/2009/06/14/meaning-propositions-category-errors/ Ugh. Apparently I didn’t copy that properly. Here it is:
http://deleet.dk/2009/06/14/meaning-propositions-category-errors/

]]> By: Emil http://chaospet.com/2009/07/21/135-liar-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-17535 Emil Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:46:54 +0000 http://chaospet.com/?p=216#comment-17535 @EveryZig Yes it is. As it is with contradictions the negation of them is a necessary truth. But that's not the case with the liar paradox since the negation is also a contradiction. That's why it's a paradox. "About the propositions expressed by the ideas" Read more careful. Propositions are what is expressed by cognitively meaningful sentences or statements. Here's a link to back that up. http://philosophypages.com/dy/p9.htm#prop It's an appeal to authority but there are also proper arguments for the position, of course. I've written a bit about it. Here for instance: http://philosophypages.com/dy/p9.htm#prop @EveryZig

Yes it is. As it is with contradictions the negation of them is a necessary truth. But that’s not the case with the liar paradox since the negation is also a contradiction. That’s why it’s a paradox.

“About the propositions expressed by the ideas”

Read more careful. Propositions are what is expressed by cognitively meaningful sentences or statements. Here’s a link to back that up.
http://philosophypages.com/dy/p9.htm#prop

It’s an appeal to authority but there are also proper arguments for the position, of course. I’ve written a bit about it. Here for instance:
http://philosophypages.com/dy/p9.htm#prop

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