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	<title>Comments on: #89 Identity</title>
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		<title>By: chaospet</title>
		<link>http://chaospet.com/2008/05/31/89-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-38418</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most recent Batman movie has some excellent Trolley-ish scenarios, good stuff. 

Yes, there is the Buddhist strategy of simply denying that there is a &quot;self&quot; (at least in any sense that would give rise to worries about identity over time). In the spirit of the most recent comic, I prefer the opposite strategy. Panselfism - at a fundamental level, *everything* is me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most recent Batman movie has some excellent Trolley-ish scenarios, good stuff. </p>
<p>Yes, there is the Buddhist strategy of simply denying that there is a &#8220;self&#8221; (at least in any sense that would give rise to worries about identity over time). In the spirit of the most recent comic, I prefer the opposite strategy. Panselfism &#8211; at a fundamental level, *everything* is me!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr A Writinghawk</title>
		<link>http://chaospet.com/2008/05/31/89-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-38412</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr A Writinghawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t, but I was at a friend&#039;s house last night who had it so I have now - thanks for the recommendation. Makes you wonder how many other famous philosophical problems could form the nucleus for blockbuster films. I can&#039;t see how Zeno&#039;s Arrow Paradox would translate, for instance, but the Unexpected Exam has possibilities, and the Trolley Problem must already have been made countless times.

It occurs to me somewhat irrelevantly that - in the original form, without the nasty twist of drowning duplicates - in a Buddhist conception, the question doesn&#039;t arise. It&#039;s a core teaching that there is no mystical &#039;self&#039; in which your identity is located, the self that Sam Starfall is worried about. There is merely a continual and contingent series of moment-by-moment becomings, conditioned by the kamma/karma or action of previous moments. If the laws of physics dictate that one of these becomings is on Planet Pistachio, so be it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t, but I was at a friend&#8217;s house last night who had it so I have now &#8211; thanks for the recommendation. Makes you wonder how many other famous philosophical problems could form the nucleus for blockbuster films. I can&#8217;t see how Zeno&#8217;s Arrow Paradox would translate, for instance, but the Unexpected Exam has possibilities, and the Trolley Problem must already have been made countless times.</p>
<p>It occurs to me somewhat irrelevantly that &#8211; in the original form, without the nasty twist of drowning duplicates &#8211; in a Buddhist conception, the question doesn&#8217;t arise. It&#8217;s a core teaching that there is no mystical &#8216;self&#8217; in which your identity is located, the self that Sam Starfall is worried about. There is merely a continual and contingent series of moment-by-moment becomings, conditioned by the kamma/karma or action of previous moments. If the laws of physics dictate that one of these becomings is on Planet Pistachio, so be it!</p>
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		<title>By: chaospet</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, that sort of discussion pushes the intuitions the other way, and things get murky fast. 

Did you ever see The Prestige? If not, then I recommend checking it out; towards the end you get a great little discussion of just this sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, that sort of discussion pushes the intuitions the other way, and things get murky fast. </p>
<p>Did you ever see The Prestige? If not, then I recommend checking it out; towards the end you get a great little discussion of just this sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr A Writinghawk</title>
		<link>http://chaospet.com/2008/05/31/89-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-38324</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr A Writinghawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this brilliant cartoon, which I&#039;ve just discovered. Mind you, the question is too easy until you engage with the difficult bit - which is talking to a, um, post-operative teleportee.

&#039;Man, I went into this little room, and there was a flash and the door opened and I was on this amazing puce planet, and there was this, well kind of a cross between a leprechaun and a jellyfish who gave me literally the most INCREDIBLE pistachio ice cream! Then they sent me back using the same box. No, seriously it was ME, I mean you wouldn&#039;t say I was a different person if I went to the corner shop and came out again, would you? Well it was like that. Even my wife says I&#039;m the same person. The ice cream is really something else. Sure you don&#039;t want to try it?&#039;

Well, would you try it? Perhaps there&#039;s a follow-up cartoon somewhere I haven&#039;t discovered yet ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this brilliant cartoon, which I&#8217;ve just discovered. Mind you, the question is too easy until you engage with the difficult bit &#8211; which is talking to a, um, post-operative teleportee.</p>
<p>&#8216;Man, I went into this little room, and there was a flash and the door opened and I was on this amazing puce planet, and there was this, well kind of a cross between a leprechaun and a jellyfish who gave me literally the most INCREDIBLE pistachio ice cream! Then they sent me back using the same box. No, seriously it was ME, I mean you wouldn&#8217;t say I was a different person if I went to the corner shop and came out again, would you? Well it was like that. Even my wife says I&#8217;m the same person. The ice cream is really something else. Sure you don&#8217;t want to try it?&#8217;</p>
<p>Well, would you try it? Perhaps there&#8217;s a follow-up cartoon somewhere I haven&#8217;t discovered yet &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chaospet</title>
		<link>http://chaospet.com/2008/05/31/89-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-2836</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed!</p>
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